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These narrations are not valid from the point of view of the Sunni scientists.
Second:
It they are valid, in our opinion, narrating them on the satellite channels will be illegal and against the religion and it will be considered as insulting the holy things of the Sunnite.
Third:
You have not understood the meaning of this narration.
This narration has been narrated from the second caliph
ما بقي في شئ من أمر الجاهلية إلا أني لست أبالي إلي أي الناس نكحت و أيهم أنكحت.
Its meaning is
‘’ I do not care about what tribe or people my daughter or my son marries’’.
In this part, نَكَحْتُ means تَزَوَّجْتُ not نُكِحْتُ or أُنْكِحْتُ. This kind of translating is due to lack of information and at least it should be referred to the Sunni books. We have spent a lot of time on this topic and some people, such as Seyed Nematolla Jazayeri (may God’s mercy be upon him) and others, have said some matters and we were trying to understand whether they could be considered reasons. Our friends researched about thirty, forty hours in the research centre of Hazrat Valiasr (may God hasten his glad advent) and analyzed the ideas of the Sunni scientists and the word ‘’ نَكَحْتُ ‘’or the word ‘’أنْكَحْتُ’’. The Sunni scientists said that its meaning was
‘’ I do not care about what tribe or people my daughter or my son marries’’.
It means that I do not take care of the Islamic principles, such as being equal and so forth, and I will let my son marry whatever family I would like and I will let my daughter marry whatever family I would like the same as the time of ignorance. This is the meaning of the narration not the meaning that the Sunni scientists said.
Question 4
1) There are some of the Hadiths that Professor Husseini Ghazvini used to show the way that the second caliph behaved the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) in Sahih Bokhari or Sahih Mosalam. When the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) wanted to pray for a deceased person, Omar came and objected why he wanted to pray for him. The prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) bade to Omar ‘’ go away from me’’. Professor Husseini Ghazvini used this Hadith to prove imprudence of Omar toward the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants). However, it has been said in rest of these Hadiths when such event happened, God descended this verse ‘’ pray for him’’.
2) You should know that they never deny their Hadiths. When they narrated some Hadiths easily ‘’ the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and hid descendants) pissed in a stood way and the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) had sexual intercourse with ten of his wives in night’’. It is easy for them to say ‘’ the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) made a mistake and did wrong and Omar told the truth and God supported the remark of Omar’’. We mention a verse that God bade in the Najm Surah ‘’ the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) does not say anything from his side and he says from God’’.
Professor Husseini Ghazvini explain us how to indicate imprudence of Omar so that the Sunni scientists cannot answer.
2) The second caliph has said in Sahih Bokhari which said to Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) ‘’ your idea about Abu Bakr and me is ‘’we are betrayer, cheater and liar’’. It has been said at the beginning of this Hadith ‘’Abbas, the uncle of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants), with Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) went to the second caliph and said ‘’ compare this liar, cheater, and betrayer person with me’’.
The Sunni scientists say that if you believe in this Hadith and say that Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) had such idea that they were betrayer, cheater and liar; therefore, Abbas believed that the leader of the faithful (peace be upon him) had such attributes (نعوذ بالله) whereas Abbas was the member of the prophet’s family (peace be upon them).
Explain us how to answer this doubt.
Answer 4:
1) Omar Ben Khatab narrates that Hazrat bade about the pray of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) for the corpse of Abdullah Ben Abi and the objection of the second caliph to the pray of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants)
أخر عنى يا عمر، فلما أكثرت عليه، قال: إني خيرت فاخترت، لو أعلم إنى إن زدت على السبعين يغفر له لزدت عليها، ... ، فعجبت بعد من جرأتي على رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم.
‘’ O’ Omar! Go away and do not object. Omar Ben Khatab says ‘’ have I objected again because you are praying for a hypocrite?’’. Hazrat bade ‘’ God determined whether I pray for them or not, so I decided to pray…Omar Ben Khatab says ‘’ I objected again and I myself got surprised from courage and imprudence toward the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) in that day’’.
Sahih al-Bokhari (volume 2/page 100/alphabets 1366).
This interpretation is so harsh.
The prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) bade
أخر عنى يا عمر.
‘’ O’ Omar! Go away and do not object’’.
However, Omar objected again. Omar says
فعجبت بعد من جرأتي على رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم.
‘’ I myself got surprised from courage and imprudence toward the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) in that day’’.
It has also been said in some interpretations
فأخذ عمر بن الخطاب بثوبه، فقال: تصلى عليه و هو منافق و قد نهاك الله أن تستغفر لهم
‘’ Omar pulled the garb of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and said ‘’ are you praying for a hypocrite whereas God has prohibited to seek forgiveness for them!’’.
As you see, Omar has courage against the action of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and in addition, the Quran says
اتَّبِعْ مَا أُوحِيَ إِلَيْكَ مِنْ رَبِّكَ
And
إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحَى إِلَيَّ
‘’ I obey nothing except revelation’’.
It is clear and obvious that objecting the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) is against the orders of God and the Quran and this shows that Excellency Caliph knows better than the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants). When Omar says
أليس الله نهاك أن تصلي علي المنافين؟
‘’ has God prohibited you to pray for the corpse of the hypocrites?’’.
It is very unpleasant interpretation! It means that Omar knows better than the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants)!
First:
The Sunni scientists should answer us whether the companions use these interpretations about each other.
Second:
We do not consider Abbas as the member of the prophet’s family (peace be upon them) and we do not consider his remark a reason for ourselves. What is valid for us is the remark of Ali Ben Abi Taleb (peace be upon him) which the prophet bade
علي مع الحق و الحق مع علي.
These Sunni scientists consider Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) as caliph. The Sunni scientists say that the caliphs had good relationships with each other. This narration has been said in Sahih Mosalam (volume 4/page 152/Hadith 4461) that Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him), Abbas, the uncle of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants), got together with the companions and Omar said to both of them
فلما توفى رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم قال أبو بكر: أنا ولى رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم، ... فرأيتماه كاذبا آثما غادرا خائنا ... ثم توفى أبو بكر و أنا ولى رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم و ولى أبى بكر، فرأيتماني كاذبا آثما غادرا خائنا ... .
And this narration shows that relationship between Ali Ben Abi Taleb (peace be upon him) and the caliphs has not been as you claim. Hence, when Mr. Bokhari discusses this story, he says
كذا و كذا
In other words, Mr.Bokhari has understood that this is insult toward the first caliph and the second caliph.
Question 5:
1. We have explicit words in the Sunni books which demonstrates that fighting with Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) and the Imams ( peace be upon them) is the same as fighting with the prophet ( peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and hence, it is considered fighting with God. Their Sabb was Sab of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and in the end, it was Sab of God. It is said that Excellency Am al-Momenin Ayesha, Talhe, Zobeir and Moavie fought against the leader of the faithful (peace be upon him) in the Jamal and Seffin Wars and Yazid fought against Imam Hussein (peace be upon him). The Sunni scientists say against the explicit words ‘’ they deduced facts from the Quran and the Hadiths and it was not correct’’.
My question from the Sunni scientists is ‘’ why didn’t the Sunni scientists and Om al-Momenin deduce facts from the Quran and the Hadiths wrongly against the threefold caliphs and weren’t all of these deductions, whose consequences were killing others, against the prophet’s family (peace be upon them)? And if they had been able, they would have killed Ali Ben Abi Taleb (peace be upon him) like Imam Hussein (peace be upon him). Our question is why they did not deduce from the Quran and the Hadiths wrongly against three caliphs.
Shouldn’t Om al-Momenin Ayeshe have deduced facts from the Quran and the Hadiths and declared ‘’ I deduced facts from the Quran and the Hadiths and I concluded that we should fight against Ali Ben Abi Taleb (peace be upon him)’’ didn’t she respect the verse ‘’ و قرن في بيوتكن’’ and the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and didn’t she sit in her house, say this fatwa to her children and didn’t they obey it, sit on the camel and go from a city to another city?
The Sunni scientists deduce facts from the Quran and the Hadiths and fight against Ali Ben Abi Taleb (peace be upon him) that was accepted as a caliph by the nation. The Sunni scientists say ‘’ we deduced facts from the Quran and the Hadiths, but we did wrong’’. Therefore, God will award them in the doomsday. We have scientists, sources of authorities and clergy men and aren’t they allowed to deduce from the Quran that mourning for the child of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and سيد شباب أهل الجنة recommended (but not necessary).if they deduce their recommended fatwa from the Quran and Hadiths, the Sunni scientists not only promote our clergymen, but they also issue the excommunication of all of the followers and the Shiites and they address them unbeliever and innovator. Is this fair?
These Sunni scientists deduce facts from the Quran and the Hadiths against the caliph of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) and they have fight against him. If our Mojtaheds (clergy men), such as Allahyari and others, have deduced facts from the Quran and the Hadiths and they have concluded that the threefold caliphs have such actions, should we really excommunicated them?
The Sunni scientists should concentrate on these matters and why were they deducing facts from the Quran and the Hadiths and tyrannies against the prophet’s family (peace be upon them)?
Answer 5:
1) You bade ‘’ fighting with Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) and the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) is the same as fighting against God’’. Mr. Ahmad Ben Hanbal in the book’’ Mosnad Ahmad’’ (volume 2/page 442), Hakem Neishapuri in the book ‘’ al-Mostadrek Ala al-Sahihin (volume 3/page 149) and Heisami in the book ‘’Majma al-Zavaed and Manba al-Favaed ‘’ (volume 9/page 169) have narrated this narration.
من سبّ عليا فقد سبْني
هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد
It is more interesting to say that Mr Jaber Ben Abdollah Ansari narrates from Omar Ben Khatab
كنت أجفو عليا، فلقيني رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فقال: إنك آذيتني يا عمر. فقلت: أعوذ بالله ممن آذى رسوله. قال: إنك قد آذيت عليا و من آذى عليا فقد آذاني
‘’ I bothered Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him). The prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) saw me and bade ‘’O’ Omar! You bothered me. I said ‘’ I rest on God since I have bothered his messenger’’. The prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) bade ‘’ you bothered Ali and everyone that bothers Ali has bothered me’’.
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