Nature of Ghodsi Hadith

Al-Asrar Al-Fatemie; Al-Sheikh Muhammad Fazel Al-Masoudi:
فاطمة الزهراء عليها السلام العلة الغائية
( يا أحمد لولاك لما خلقت الأفلاك ، ولولا علي لما خلقتك ، ولولا فاطمة لما خلقتكما ) (الجنة العاصمة : 148 ، مستدرك سفينة البحار : 3 / 334 عن مجمع النورين : 14 ، عن العوالم : 44 . ) هذا الحديث من الأحاديث المأثورة التي رواها جابر بن عبد الله الأنصاري عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم عن الله تبارك وتعالى
Al-Asrar Al-Fatemie; Al-Sheikh Muhammad Fazel Al-Masoudi p 231
فاطمه زهرا عليها السلام هدف نهايي
O' Ahmad! If you had not been, I would not have created the heavens and if Ali had not been, I would not have created you and if Fateme had not been, I would not have created both of you. (Al-Jane Al- Aseme p 148: Mostadrek Safine Al-Bahar from Majma Al-Nurin from Avalem). This is one of narrations that Jaber Ben Abdullah Ansari has narrated it from the messenger of God and he has narrated it from God.
Jane Al-Aseme Mir Jahani from Kashf Al-Leali:
The narration of this book has been taken from the following documents:
a) Shafa Al-Sodur Fi Sharh Ziarat Al-Ashura
كفى في سمو شأن الزهراء سلام الله عليها كلام خالقها لولا فاطمة لما خلقتكما : روى عن الشيخ ابراهيم بن الحسن الذراق ، عن الشيخ علي بن هلال الجزائري ، عن الشيخ احمد بن فهد الحلي ، عن الشيخ زين الدين علي بن الحسن الخازن الحائري ، عن الشيخ أبي عبد الله محمد بن مكى الشهيد بطرقه المتصلة الى أبى جعفر محمد بن علي بن موسى بن بابويه القمى بطريقه الى جابر بن يزيد الجعفي ، عن جابر بن عبد الله الانصارى عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله عن الله تبارك وتعالى انه قال : يا احمد لولاك لما خلقت الافلاك ، ولولا علي لما خلقتك ، ولولا فاطمة لما خلقتكما . ثم قال جابر هذا من الاسرار أمرنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله بكتمانه الا من أهله . كشف اللئالي لصالح بن عبد الوهاب بن العرندس - جنة العاصمة لمير جهانى 149 .
مؤلف كتاب كشف اللئالى من علماء القرن التاسع من علماء الشيعة كان عالما ناسكا زاهدا ورعا أديبا شاعرا توفي سنة 840 ودفن في حله هيفاء ومدفنه مزار يتبرك به ورجال الحديث من كبار الشيعة - راجع جنة العاصمة 149
Shafa Al-Sodur Fi SharhZiarat Al-Ashura v 1 p 225; footnote no 1
The creator of Hazrat Fateme has said about her high rank '' if Hazrat Fateme had not been, I would not have created you (the messenger of God and Amir Momenan).
It has been narrated from Sheikh Ibrahim Ben Al-Hasan Al-Zaragh that he has narrated from Sheikh Ali Ben Halal Jazayeri and he has narrated from Sheikh Ahmad Ben Fahd Hali and he has narrated from Sheikh Zein Al-Din Ali Ben Al-Hasan Khazen Haeri and he has narrated from Sheikh Abi Abdullah Muhammad Ben Maki Shahid with his connected document and Abu Jafar Muhammad Ben Ali Ben Musa Ben Babuie Qomi has narrated from his document and Jaber Ben Yazid Jafi has narrated from Jaber Ben Abdullah Ansari and he has narrated from the messenger of God that he bade '' O' Ahmad! If you had not been, I would not have created the heavens and if Ali had not been, I would not have created you and if Fateme had not been, I would not have created both of you''. Then Jaber said '' this is one of secrets that the messenger of God ordered not to reveal it except its believers.
Kashf Al-Leali written by Saleh Ibn Abd Al-WahhabIbnArandos; Mir Jahani p 149
The writer of the book '' Kashf Al-Leali'' was one the Shiite scientists in the ninth century. He was scientist, a religious and pious person with eloquent remarks. He was a poet and passed away in 840 and was buried in Hale Hifa. The place that he has been buried is shrine and people take benediction from it. He is one of Shiite Hadith dignitaries. In this area, refer to the book '' Jane Al-Ase'' /p 149.
b) Al-Asrar Al-Fatemie; Sheikh Muhammad Fazel Al-Masoudi:
His remarks were already said in the matter '' Majma Al-Nurin Fazel Herandi''.
Al-Asrar Al-Fatemie; Al-Sheikh Muhammad Fazel Al-Masoudi p 231
Mesbah Al-Anvar written by: Abu Al-Hasan Al-Bekri, the master of the first martyr:
Cases that have narrated this narration from this book include
a) Mostadrek Safine Al-Bahar:
He has narrated this matter in the sacred book '' Mostadrek Safine Al-Bahar''
أما الحديث القدسي : " لولاك لما خلقت الأفلاك " فقد روى أبو الحسن البكري أستاذ الشهيد الثاني في كتاب الأنوار عن أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) : أنه قال : كان الله ولا شئ معه ، فأول ما خلق نور حبيبه محمد ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) قبل خلق الماء والعرش والكرسي والسماوات والأرض واللوح والقلم - إلى أن قال : - والحق تبارك وتعالى ينظر إليه ويقول : يا عبدي أنت المراد والمريد ، وأنت خيرتي من خلقي وعزتي وجلالي لولاك لما خلقت الأفلاك . من أحبك أحببته . ومن أبغضك أبغضته – الخبر .
Mostadrak Safinat Al-Behar; Al-Sheikh Ali Al-Namazi Al-Shahrudi v 3 p 166
The Ghodsi Hadith is '' if you had not been, I would not have created the heavens''. In fact, Abu Bakri, the master of the second martyr narrated from Amir Momenan in the book '' Al-Anvar'' the he bade '' there was only God and he had nothing with him. Then the first thing that he created was the light of his friend, Muhammad, before he created water, the throne (of God ),korsi, the sky , the earth, plaque and pen …exalted God looked at him and said '' O' my person! You are my purpose and you are my best creature. I swear to my greatness that if you had not been, I would not have created the heavens. I will love everyone that loves you and I will have animosity with everyone that has animosity with you…
b) Shafa Al-Sodur Fi Sharh Ziarat Al-Ashura:
حديث لولاك لما خلقت الافلاك ولولا على لما خلقتك وحديث لولا رسول الله وعلى لما خلقت العالم وحديث لولا اهل البيت لما خلقت العالم وحديث لولا فاطمة لما خلقتكما ) : روى ابن الحسن البكري استاد شهيد الثانى ( ره ) في كتاب ( الانوار ) عن امير المؤمنين ( ع ) انه قال كان الله ولا شئ معه ، فاول ما خلق نور حبيبه محمد قبل خلق الماء والعرش والكرسي والسموات والارض واللوح والقلم . . . والحق تبارك وتعالى ينظر اليه ويقول : يا عبدي انت المراد والمريد وانت خيرتي من خلقي وعزتى وجلالي لولاك لما خلقت الافلاك من احبك احببته ، ومن ابغضك ابغضته ...
Shafa Al-Sodur Fi SharhZiarat Al-Ashura v 2 p 83; no 2
The narration '' if you had not been, I would have created the heavens and if Ali had not been, I would not have created human''; the narration ''if the messenger of God and Imam Ali (peace be upon him) had not been, I would have created the world''; the narration '' if Ahle Beit had not been, I would not have created the world'' and the narration '' if Fateme had been, I would not have created both of you''. Ibn Hasan Bakri Ostad Shahid Sani has narrated in the book ''Al-Anvar'' from Amir Momenan that he bade '' there was only God and he had nothing with him. Then the first thing that he created was the light of his friend, Muhammad, before he created water, the throne (of God ),korsi, the sky , the earth, plaque and pen …exalted God looked at him and said '' O' my person! You are my purpose and you are my best creature. I swear to my greatness that if you had not been, I would not have created the heavens. I will love everyone that loves you and I will have animosity with everyone that has animosity with you…
c) Al-Zoreie Agha BozorgTehrani:
( مصباح الأنوار ) للشيخ أبي الحسن البكري ، أستاذ الشهيد ، كما ينقل عنه السيد محمد القطب في تصانيفه ، منها في ( فصل الخطاب ) نقل عنه حديث أول ما خلق الله نور حبيبه وقال له لولاك لما خلقت الأفلاك
Al-Zorie Agha BozorgTehrani v 21 p 102
The book of Mesbah Al-Anvar Sheikh Abu Al-Hasan Bakri Ostad Shahid; according to what Sayad Muhammad Ghotb has said in his books; one of them is the book '' Fasl Al-Khatab'' that he narrates this narration from him '' the first thing God created was the light of his friend and he said to him '' if you had not been, I would not have created the heavens''.
Ziya Al-Alamin:
وفي ضياء العالمين للشيخ أبي الحسن الجد الأمي للشيخ محمد حسن صاحب الجواهر بزيادة فقرة : ولولا فاطمة لما خلقتكما . ونحوه من كتاب المرندي
Mostadrak Safinat Al-Behar; Al-Sheikh Ali Al-Namazi Al-Shahrudi v 3 p 169
He has narrated in the book '' Bahr Al-Maref'' if you had not been, I would not have created the heavens and if Ali had not been, I would not have created you. If Fateme had not been, I would not have created both of you and this has also been said in the book '' Marandi''.
Kafaye Alaser:
Deceased Khazar Qomi, One of scientists in 5 A.H., has said two narrations in his book about this area:
The first narration:
The document of the first narration has been said in this way
قال هارون : وحدثنا حيدر بن محمد بن نعيم السمرقندي ، قال حدثني أبو النصر محمد بن مسعود العياشي ، عن يوسف بن المشحت البصري ، قال حدثنا إسحاق بن الحارث ، قال حدثنا محمد بن البشار ، عن محمد بن جعفر ، قال حدثنا شعبة ، عن هشام بن يزيد ، عن أنس بن مالك قال : كنت أنا وأبو ذر وسلمان وزيد بن ثابت وزيد بن أرقم عند النبي صلي الله عليه وآله وسلم
The content of the first narration is
فأوحى الله إلي : يا محمد إني اطلعت إلى الأرض اطلاعة فاخترتك منها فجعلتك نبيا ، ثم اطلعت ثانيا فاخترت منها عليا فجعلته وصيك ووارث علمك والإمام بعدك ، وأخرج من أصلابكما الذرية الطاهرة والأئمة المعصومين خزان علمي ، فلولاكم ما خلقت الدنيا ولا الآخرة ولا الجنة ولا النار
Kefayat Al-Asar p 70 chapter Ma Ja An Anas Ibn Malek Min Al-Nosus
Then God made revelation to me '' O' Muhammad! I looked at the earth, selected you among human and then I appointed you as a prophet. I looked at it again; i selected Ali among human and then I appointed him your successor, the inheritor of your science and Imam after you. I have selected two pure dynasties and the innocent Imams as the treasury of science from your generation. If you had not been, I would not have created the world, the doomsday, the heaven and the hell.
The second narration:
ثم قال لي : يا علي أنت الإمام والخليفة من بعدي ، حربك حربي وسلمك سلمي ، وأنت أبو سبطي وزوج ابنتي ، من ذريتك الأئمة المطهرون ، فأنا سيد الأنبياء [ وأنت سيد الأوصياء ، وأنا وأنت من شجرة واحدة ] ، ولولانا لم يخلق الجنة والنار ولا الأنبياء ولا الملائكة .
Kefayat Al-Asar p 157 chapter Ma RoyeAn Amir-Al-Momeneen Min Al-Nosus
Then the messenger of God bade to me O' Ali! You are Imam and caliph after me; your enemy is mine and your friend is mine. You are the father of my grandson and the husband of my daughter. The Innocent Imams are from your generation. Therefore, I am the master of the prophets and you are the master of the successors; you and I are from a tree. If we had not been, the heaven, the hell, the prophets and the angels would not have been created.
These were some of the Shiite and Sunni narrations and some of its narrations about the narration.
لولاکلماخلقتالافلاک
Even some of the Sunni scientists have confessed the validity of the narration.