The statements of scientists about Islam

Zehbi interprets the narration of the great scientist of Hanbali, Excellency Mr. Abu Hatem Ben Khamush in this way
الإمام المحدث، من علماء السنة (1)
He has issued a fatwa that all of narrators have narrated it
من لم يكن حنبليا فليس بمسلم (2)
‘’Everyone that is not Hanbali is not Muslim’’.
In other words, Shafei , Maleki, Hanafi, Shiite people are not Muslim. Habali and Vahabi people obey Habali religion.
Dear friends, will it be good if these statements are published? What is your stand against Imam Abu Hatem? Do you consider his remark true and correct? Do you consider his remark from the Quran and the tradition? Or you think that his remark is without foundation and nonsense even if he is considered Imam.
The Quran says
وَ لَا تَقُولُوا لِمَنْ أَلْقَى إِلَيْكُمُ السَّلَامَ لَسْتَ مُؤْمِنًا (3)
‘’Say not to anyone who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!"
You have narrated different narrations from the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) in Sahih Bokhari and Sahih Mosalam
‘’ I will consider every one that says لا إله إلا الله and attest my prophetic mission Muslim and no one should object about it’’.
Mr. Ebn Asir Jezri (died in 630 A.H) narrates against the remark of Mr. Abu Hatem Ben Khamush and he said in relation to the riot that happened between Shafei and Hanbali people in Baghdad
‘’ Abu al-Ghasem Bakari Maghrebi Vaez entered Baghdad, found faults with Habali supporters and said
وَ مَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَ لَكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُوا (4)
والله! ما كفر أحمد و لكن أصحابه كفروا (5)
‘’…swear God! Ahmad Ben Hanbel is not believer, but all of Hanbali people are unbeliever’’.
Disagreement between Hanafi and Hanbali people
Mr. Zehbi narrates from Mr. Abu Hamed Tusi (died in 567 A.H.) in the book ‘’ Alabr Fi Khabar Men Gheir’’ (volume 4/page 200) researched by Dr Selah al-Din al-Monjad; Matbae Kuwait Government Publication in 1984 A.D
(6) لو كان لي أمر، لوضعت علي الحنابلة الجزية
‘’ if I had been able, I would have exacted extra taxes from all of Hanbali people’’.
As we considered extra taxes for Jewish and Christian people, we exacted extra taxes from all of Hanbali people.
On the other hand, Mr. Muhammad Ben Musa Hanafi (died in 506 A.H.), the judge of Dameshgh, said
(7) لو كان لي من الأمر شيء، لأخذت على الشافعية الجزية ‘’ if i had been able, I would have exacted extra taxes from all of Shafei people’’.
It is true about the Sunni, Christian and Jewish people.
Alame Rashid Reza, the author of the book ‘’ Tafsir al-Menar’’ has this interpretation
‘’Some Sheiks referred to their head and mufti and said
إقسم المساجد بيننا و بين الحنفية، فإن فلانا من فقهائهم يعدنا كأهل الذمة (8)
‘’Divide the mosque between Shafei and Hanafi people because Hanafi jurisprudents consider Shafei people like ahle zeme’’.
These are not stories that were forgotten during the history.
Destroying the Hanabale Mosque as the mosque of Zerar
Hanabe has set up a mosque and they betrayed against the Muslims in the mosque until they referred to Ali Ben Isa and said ‘’the mosque that Hanabele has set up is Zerar and it should be destroyed’’. Then he ordered to destroy the mosque of Hanabele. (9)
These stories are completely clear. Some of the Sunni scientists make disagreement between the Shiites and the Sunnis. For example, a Shiite scientist that lived thousand years ago has said such remarks and then they spread it in the society. Afterwards, they started saying in the satellite that Sheikh Mofid (may God’s mercy be upon him) has said such remarks. Is it appropriate to publish such matters? The matters of Sheikh Mofid (may God’s mercy be upon him) are mostly about Navaseb not about the Sunnis. Or they are about people that believe in Imamate of the leader of the faithful (peace be upon him) «مما جاء به النبي». The word ‘’Jahd’’ has been mentioned in his remarks. The Quran bade
وَ جَحَدُوا بِهَا وَ اسْتَيْقَنَتْهَا أَنْفُسُهُمْ (10)
Jahd is different from rejection. Rejection may be due to ignorance, but Jahd may be rejection from knowledge.
Dear brothers! Persons that make riot (the Shiite religion has said in such a way and such and such a Shiite scientist has said in such a way) should know that such things are related to the Sunni groups that curse, abuse each other and etc.
At the present, is distributing such matters in the favor of the Islamic society or not? We respect the Sunni scientists (Hanafi, Shafei, Hanbali, Maleki) and consider them our brothers. Moreover, we never blaspheme any Islamic groups and all of our jurisprudents, from the time of deceased Sheikh Mofid (may God’s mercy be upon him), Syed morteza (may God’s mercy be upon him), Sheikh Tusi(may God’s mercy be upon him), Alame Heli may God’s mercy be upon him),deceased Shahid (may God’s mercy be upon him) and the contemporary jurisprudents, have not prohibited the Shiite people to marry them. But they distort matters in books and they want to provoke the Sunni scientists against the Shiite scientists in order to expand killing Shiites. After you have killed a lot of Shiites, What have you got? What benefits have your suicides and murders had? I have said over and over again that if Shiites are alive and they have dynamic culture and have appeared all over the world, it has been due to the blood of the martyrs. Whatever you have done is against you and it is in the favor of the Shiites. No one has been able to solve any problems with murdering, suicide and killing. What hell did Yazid do with murdering, suicide and killing? Was he able to solve any problems with killing people in Kerbela, Horre and Kaaba or did it have reverse results?
The Sunni scientists exploded Bambi in Bein al-Haramein about four years ago in Tasua Day and they martyred about thirty Shiite people and some of them injured. What was its result? Did people refuse to go Kerbela? Or didn’t a lot of people go Kerbela in the next year? People got more interested in Kerbela. When such event happened, the holy shrine of Ghamar Bani Hashem (peace be upon him), the holy shrine of Imam Hussein (peace be upon him) and their dome were broadcasted on TV and people all over the world knew and asked ‘’what is this dome? Whose is it?’’. They looked for the culture of Imam Hussein (peace be upon him), Ghamar Bani Hashem (peace be upon him) and the culture of Kerbela. I believe that if Shiites spend a lot of money for publishing the culture of Imam Hussein (peace be upon him), Ghamar Bani Hashem (peace be upon him), they will not be able to do what they did. If God wills, animosity can result in benefits. Imam Sajjad bade
الحمد لله الذي جعل اعدائنا من الحمقاء.
You have killed a lot of Shiites so far in the country, Iraq, Pakistan and other countries, but what benefits have you got? Have the Shiites left their religion? What benefits have they got from a lot of disasters in the country and different events such as the Tasuki Disaster, the explosion of the Ali Ben Abi Taleb ( peace be upon him) mosque, the theological school of Chah Jamal Chah Bahar and other events? Have you been able to make Shiites leave their religion? Have they changed their idea about their religion? Or when the Shiites face to such events, do they think that we are right, but they behave illogically? Their illogical behavior indicates that the Shiite religion is right. The Shiite youth will be faithful and firm toward their religion.
The blue tooth that you are distributing will be against you. Many people may not have heard the blue tooth, but many matters have been turned out after we discussed about it for several sessions. We said these matters tonight and we mentioned disagreements among the Shiite religions. Do the Sunni youth like expressing disagreements among the Shiite religions? Do the Sunni scientists and our great brothers like abuses and kills that happen among Hanafi, Maleki, Shafei and Hanabeli supporters during the history? There have not been only one or two disagreements, but there have been hundred disagreements. The colonists and the enemies of the Islam have caused the all of disagreements among the religions (whether the Shiite religion against the Sunni religion, whether Hanafi religion against the Hanbali religion and whether the Shafei religion against the Maleki religion). They have not felt sorry for Shiite, Sunni, Maleki, Shafei, Hanbali and Hanafi people. They do not want to eradicate the Islam and the Quran and they defame the name of the prophet (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants). There are people that have lost their mind and conscience and they want to increase disagreements between the Shiite and Sunni people. At the present, every one that increases disagreements between the Shiite and Sunni people has supported among the foreigners, the colonists and the enemies of the Islam, the Quran and the prophet ( peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants). This is not our idea and the great sources of authority (حفظهم الله تعالي) think like us.
Mr. Mohseni
It has been narrated in some Sunni books that the Sunni scientists have had harsh interpretations about Abu Hanife and even some of them cannot be said. Please explain a little in this case.
Professor Husseini Ghazvini
We respect all of the Sunni Imams, whether they are Mr. Abu Hanife (died in 150 A.H.), Mr. Malek (died in 179 A.H.), Mr. Shafei (died in 240 A.H.) or Mr. Ahmad Ben Hanbal (died in 241 A.H.),and we consider any kind of imprudence toward them ذنب لا يغفر . I have said several times that we consider whoever insults the holy things of the Sunnite or the Shiite the cause of riot and it does not matter what kind of clothes he wears.
الْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ (11)
Dear brothers and persons that are followers of Mr. ….
(The voice was stopped)
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(The rest of the discussion: answering the blue tooth event was distributed against the Shiite whose topic is in relation to narrating the weak narrations against the Sunnite from the Shiite books in order to convict the Shiites that have used it).
One of narrators of this narration is «ضعيف، وضاع الحديث»the other one is «ضعيف جدا فاسد العقيدة and still another one is «رماه القميون بالغلو».
In spite of this, can we trust such a narration? Do the Shiites accept such a narration? You should say a narration that the Shiites consider it valid, but you should not say a narration that is not accepted by the Shiites.
We were in one of Ramadan months in Mecca and we came over to the house of Sheikh Ategh that is one of well-known personalities of Saudi Arab and he used to be one of high- rank commanders in the army. He started writing books after he retired and he was focus of the government. Some of the Vahabi scientists were in his house and we had discussion and controversy with each other for an hour and half an hour. We said some matters, but they were not too important. One of them got up and brought us 50, 60 copied pages and put them in the centre. I picked up one of them and said ‘‘what are these’’? He said
‘’ This is the copy of the book ‘’Anvar Nemanie’’ by Mr. Seyed Nematollah Jazayeri which he has said such remarks in that volume, but you deny them and say that we never said them’’.
I said
‘’ the Sunni scientists and the dignitaries have sat here! Deceased Angaji (may God’s mercy be upon him) that is one of great Shiite jurisprudents says in the book ‘’ Anvar Nemanie’’ (volume 2/page 108) ‘’ studying some books of Seyed Nematollah Jazayeri is prohibited and against the religion’’.
Sheikh Ategh got angry and said
‘’ O’ great scientist! Have you lost your mind? You have said reasons against them from the book that they do not consider valid and they consider reading it against the religion’’.
Then, Sheikh Ategh picked up the pages and threw them away.
He is one of rightful Vahabi scientists and he has good conscience. He confirmed whatever we said and we referred to the books and the documents. Sheikh Ategh said at the end of the meeting
‘’ I have met a lot of Shiite, Sunni and Vahabi scientists, but I have never seen a person like you since you mention the number of volume and page of every book whatever you say ‘’.
I said ‘’ هذا من فضل ربي.’’.
The Sunni scientists do blue tooth a narration against the Shiites that is not reliable and acceptable for the Shiites in order to kill them.

sourceا:

1-Tarikh Leleslam Lelzehbi ( volume 29/page 303)
2- Seir al-Alam al-Nebla Lelzehbi ( volume 17/page 625)-Tezkere al-Hefaz Lelzehbi ( volume 3/page 1187)-Tarikh al-Eslam Lelzehbi ( volume 29/page 303)-Zil Tabaghat al-Hanabele Laben Rajab al-Hanbeli ( volume 1/page 20)
3 -Niisa Surah / verse 94
4-Baghare Surah/verse102
5 -al-Kamel Fi al-Tarikh Laben al-Asir ( volume 10/page 124)
6 -Shezrat al-Zehb ( volume 4/page 224) researched by Abd al-Ghader Arnud ; Dameshgh Publication ;Dar Ebn Kasir
7 -Tabaghat al-Hanife ( volume 1/page 350), Tahghigh Muhammad Kheir Ramazan Yusef , Nashr Dar al-Ghalam Dameshgh –Tarikh Eslam ( volume 35/page 148)-alvafi Be al-Vafiat Lelsefdi ( volume 5/page 59)-Shezrat al-Zahb ( volume 2/page 136)-Tisir al-Ejtehad Lelsanaani ( volume 1/page 23)-Lesan al-Mizan Laben Hajar al-Asghalani ( volume 5/page 402)
8 -Ershad al-Neghad Ela Teiser al-Ejtehad ( volume 1/page 20)- Nashr Dar al-Selfie Kuwait, the first publication in 1405
9 - Neshvar al-Hazere Akhbar al-Mozakere Leltanukhi al-Basri (volume 1/page 330)-Tahghigh Mostafa Hussein Abd al-Hadi –Nashr Dar al-Kotob al-Elmie Beirut (the first publication in 1424 A.H. and 2004 A.D.)
10-Namal Surah/verse 14
11 - Baghare Surah /verse 191