Imam Ali and caliphs

Some claim that Amir Momenan (peace be upon him) and Hosnin( peace be upon him) had struggle with the invaders and they brought water for him and …when Usman was surrounded.
Some of the Sunni scientists have narrated a narration in this area, but they have document and reason problems which we will deal with them briefly.
Only document that there is in the Sunni books about this area and proves this friendly relationship is the narration that Balazeri in the book '' Ansab Al-Ashraf''', Ibn Shebhe Namiri in the book '' the history of Median'' and Ib n Abd Rabe in the book '' Al-Aghd Al-Farid'' have narrated.
The first parts of the serial have been made according to this narration whereas this narration is valid from document according to the clarification of the Sunni dignitaries.
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ، وَأَحْمَدُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ الرَّمَادِيُّ، قَالا: حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارِ بْنِ نُصَيْرٍ، قال: حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عِيسَى بْنِ سُمَيْعٍ الْقُرَشِيُّ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنِي ابْنُ أَبِي ذِئْبٍ، عَنِ الزُّهْرِيِّ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيِّبِ، قَالَ: أَشْرَفَ عُثْمَانُ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ عَلَى النَّاسِ وَهُوَ مَحْصُورٌ فَقَالَ: أَفِيكُمْ عَلِيٌّ؟ قَالُوا: لا. قَالَ: أَفِيكُمْ سَعْدٌ؟ قَالُوا: لا. فَسَكَتَ، ثُمَّ قَالَ: أَلا أَحَدَ يُبَلِّغُ مَاءً؟ فَبَلَغَ ذَلِكَ عَلِيًّا رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، فَبَعَثَ إِلَيْهِ بِثَلاثِ قِرَبٍ مَمْلُوءَةٍ، فَمَا كَادَتْ تَصِلُ إِلَيْهِ حَتَّى جُرِحَ فِي سَبَبِهَا عِدَّةٌ مِنْ مَوَالِي بَنِي هَاشِمٍ وَمَوَالِي بَنِي أُمَيَّةَ حَتَّى وَصَلَتْ إِلَيْهِ.
وَبَلَغَ عَلِيًّا رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ أَنَّ عُثْمَانَ يُرَادُ قَتْلُهُ، فَقَالَ: إِنَّمَا أَرَدْنَا مِنْهُ مَرْوَانَ، فَأَمَّا قَتْلُهُ فَلا، وَقَالَ لِلْحَسَنِ وَالْحُسَيْنِ: اذهبا بنفسيكما حتى تقوما على باب دار عثمان فلا تدعا واحدا يصل إليه. وبعث الزبير ابنه وبعث طلحة ابنه على كره منه، وبعث عدة من أصحاب محمد أبناءهم يمنعون الناس أَنْ يَدْخُلُوا عَلَى عُثْمَانَ، وَيَسْأَلُونَهُ إِخْرَاجَ مَرْوَانَ، فَلَمَّا رَأَى ذَلِكَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ وَرَمَى النَّاسُ فِيهِمْ بِالسِّهَامِ حَتَّى خُضِّبَ الْحَسَنُ بِالدِّمَاءِ عَلَى بَابِهِ، وَأَصَابَ مَرْوَانَ سَهْمٌ وَهُوَ فِي الدَّارِ، وَخُضِّبَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ طَلْحَةَ، وَشُجَّ قَنْبَرٌ.
وَخَشِيَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ أَنْ يَغْضَبَ بَنُو هَاشِمٍ لِحَالِ الْحَسَنِ وَالْحُسَيْنِ فَأَخَذَ بِيَدِ رَجُلَيْنِ، وَقَالَ لَهُمَا: إِنْ جَاءَتْ بَنُو هَاشِمٍ فَرَأَوُا الدِّمَاءَ عَلَى وَجْهِ الْحَسَنِ كَشَفُوا النَّاسَ عَنْ عُثْمَانَ، وَبَطَلَ مَا تُرِيدَانِ، وَلَكِنْ مُرَّا بِنَا حَتَّى نَتَسَوَّرَ عَلَيْهِ الدَّارَ، فَنَقْتُلَهُ مِنْ غَيْرِ أَنْ يَعْلَمَ بِنَا أَحَدٌ.
فَتَسَوَّرَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ وَصَاحِبَاهُ مِنْ دَارِ رَجُلٍ مِنَ الأَنْصَارِ حَتَّى دَخَلُوا عَلَى عُثْمَانَ، وَمَا يَعْلَمُ أَحَدٌ مِمَّنْ كَانَ مَعَهُ ؛ لأَنَّ كُلَّ مَنْ كَانَ مَعَهُ كَانَ فَوْقَ الْبُيُوتِ، فَلَمْ يَكُنْ مَعَهُ إِلا امْرَأَتُهُ. فَقَالَ لَهُمَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِي بَكْرٍ: مَكَانَكُمَا حَتَّى أَبْدَأَ بِالدُّخُولِ، فَإِذَا أَنَا خَبَطْتُهُ فَادْخُلا فَتُوجِئَاهُ حَتَّى تَقْتُلاهُ.
فَدَخَلَ مُحَمَّدٌ فَأَخَذَ بِلِحْيَتِهِ، فَقَالَ لَهُ عُثْمَانُ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ " أَمَا وَاللَّهِ لَوْ رَآكَ أَبُوكَ لَسَاءَهُ مَكَانُكَ مِنِّي ". فَتَرَاخَتْ يَدُهُ، وَحَمَلَ الرَّجُلانِ عَلَيْهِ فَوَجَآهُ حَتَّى قَتَلاهُ، وَخَرَجُوا هَارِبِينَ مِنْ حَيْثُ دَخَلُوا، وَصَرَخَتِ امْرَأَتُهُ فَلَمْ يُسْمَعْ صُرَاخُهَا لِمَا فِي الدَّارِ مِنَ الْجلَبَةِ، فَصَعَدَتِ امْرَأَتُهُ إِلَى النَّاسِ فَقَالَتْ: إِنَّ أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ قَدْ قُتِلَ.
فَدَخَلَ الْحَسَنُ وَالْحُسَيْنُ وَمَنْ كَانَ مَعَهُمَا فَوَجَدُوا عُثْمَانَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ مَذْبُوحًا فَانْكَبُّوا عَلَيْهِ يَبْكُونَ، وَخَرَجُوا، وَدَخَلَ النَّاسُ فَوَجَدُوهُ مَقْتُولا، وَبَلَغَ عَلِيًّا الْخَبَرُ وَطَلْحَةَ وَالزُّبَيْرَ وَسَعْدًا وَمَنْ كَانَ بِالْمَدِينَةِ، فَخَرَجُوا، وَقَدْ ذَهَبَتْ عُقُولُهُمْ لِلْخَبَرِ الَّذِي أَتَاهُمْ، حَتَّى دَخَلُوا عَلَيْهِ فَوَجَدُوهُ مَذْبُوحًا، فَاسْتَرْجَعُوا.
وَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ لابْنَيْهِ: كَيْفَ قُتِلَ وَأَنْتُمَا عَلَى الْبَابِ؟ وَلَطَمَ الْحَسَنَ وَضَرَبَ الْحُسَيْنَ، وَشَتَمَ مُحَمَّدَ بْنَ طَلْحَةَ، وَلَعَنَ عَبْدَ اللَّهِ بْنَ الزُّبَيْرِ، وَخَرَجَ وَهُوَ غَضْبَانُ يَرَى أَنَّ طَلْحَةَ أَعَانَ عَلَى مَا كَانَ مِنْ أَمْرِ عُثْمَانَ فَلَقِيَهُ طَلْحَةُ، فَقَالَ: مَا لَكَ يَا أَبَا الْحَسَنِ ضَرَبْتَ الْحَسَنَ وَالْحُسَيْنَ؟ فَقَالَ: عَلَيْكَ لَعْنَةُ اللَّهِ أَلا يَسُوءُنِي ذَلِكَ يُقْتَلُ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ، رَجُلٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ مُحَمَّدٍ بَدْرِيٌّ لَمْ تَقُمْ عَلَيْهِ بَيِّنَةٌ وَلا حُجَّةٌ ! ! فَقَالَ طَلْحَةُ: لَوْ دَفَعَ إِلَيْنَا مَرْوَانَ لَمْ يُقْتَلْ. فَقَالَ عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ: لَوْ أَخْرَجَ إِلَيْكُمْ مَرْوَانَ لَقُتِلَ قَبْلَ أَنْ تَثْبُتَ عَلَيْهِ حُكُومَةٌ.
It has been narrated from Saeid Ben Mosib that when Usman was surrounded, he talked to the people from the roof of the house and asked '' is Ali among you?'' they said '' no''. He asked '' is Sad among you?'' they said '' no''. Then he said nothing more. Afterwards, he asked '' Is there any one among you to give me water?'' Imam Ali (peace be upon him) informed of this news. Then he sent three goatskins full of water. Usman received the water after some of servants of Bani Hashem and servants of Bani Omaye wounded.
Imam Ali (peace be upon him) informed that they wanted to kill Usman. Then he said '' we want Marvan from him, but we do not want to kill him. He bade to Hasan and Hussein (peace be upon him) '' go and stand in the front of the house of Usman and do not let anyone hurt him. Zobeir and Talhe sent their sons, but the son of Talhe was sad of this action. Some of the companions of Hazrat Muhammad (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) sent their children so that they do not let the people enter the house of Usman and they want him to let Marvan leave there. Muhammad Ben Abi Bakr saw the people shooting them. Imam Hasan (peace be upon him) covered with blood in the house. Marvan was shot in the house; Muhammad Ben Talhe became colorful from blood and the head of Ghanbar broke. Muhammad Ben Abi Bakr scared that Bani Hashem tribe would be angry because of the situation of Imam Hasan ( peace be upon him) and Imam Hussein ( peace be upon him). Hence, he held their hands and said to them
If the Bani Hashen tribe comes and see blood on the face of Imam Hasan (peace be upon him), they will become sad. Therefore, they will prevent the people from reaching to Usman and you will not achieve to your purpose. Let's climb the wall and kill him without awareness of any one. Then Muhammad Ben Abi Bakr and his two companions climbed the wall of house of a man from Anasr and entered the house of Usman. None of the companions of Usman knew that they were into the house because all of his companions were on the roof and only the wife of Usman was there. Muhammad Ben Abi Bakr said to his two companions '' stay there; at first I will enter and when I put him under my hands and feet andhit him, you enter and hit him until he dies.
Muhammad Ben Abi Bakr entered the house and pulled the beard of Usman. Usman said to him '' I swear God that if your father saw you, he would die because you are bothering me. Muhammad stopped bothering him. Those two persons invaded him and they hit him as much as they killed him and they ran away from the way that they had come while they had scared. The wife of Usman screamed, but no one heard her voice. The wife of Usman went to the people and said
The leader of the faithful was killed. Then Hassan, Hussein and their troops entered and they saw Usman killed. Imam Ali (peace be upon him), Talhe, Zobeir, Sad and other people of Median informed of this news. While they had lost their mind with hearing this news, they left their houses and entered the house of Usman. They saw him killed and said
«انا لله وإنا اليه راجعون»
Imam Ali (peace be upon him) said to his two children '' how was he killed when you were in front of him?''. They slapped Hasan and hit Hussein. Moreover, they abused Muhammad Ben Talhe and cursed Abdullah Ben Zobeir.
Imam Ali (peace be upon him) left the house as he was angry. He thought Talhe cooperated in killing Usman. Talhe faced Hazrat Ali (peace be upon him) faced and said '' O' Abu Al-Hasan! Why have you beaten up Hasan and Hussein?' Imam Ali (peace be upon him) bade '' the curse of God be upon you; why shouldn't I be sad? While the leader of the faithful has been killed. he was one of the companions of the messenger of God and one of participants of the Badr War and they killed him without any reasons''. Talhe said '' if had given us Marvan, he would not have been killed''. Imam Ali (peace be upon him ) bade '' if he had given Marvan to you, he would have been killed before his government was established and entered his house''.
The first point: the document of the narration is weak.
The main problem in the document of this narration is Muhammad Ben Isa Ben Samie that has been weakened by some of the Sunni scientists and they have said '' he has cheated in the document of this narration. Additionally, they have attributed that narration that has been heard from a weak person to IBn Abi Zaeb in order to cover the weakness of the narration.
After narrating this narration, Namiri has said
وَهَذَا حَدِيثٌ كَثِيرُ التَّخْلِيطِ، مُنْكَرُ الإِسْنَادِ لا يُعْرَفُ صَاحِبُهُ الَّذِي رَوَاهُ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي ذِئْبٍ، وَأَمَّا ابْنُ أَبِي ذِئْبٍ وَمَنْ فَوْقَهُ فَأَقْوِيَاءُ.
Falsiy and honesty have been mixed in this Hadith and its document is unacceptable. The narrator that has narrated it from AbiZaeb is not known. But Abi Zaeb and narrators that more superior than him are professional.
Al-Namiri Al-Basri, Abu Zeid Omar Ibn Shebe (died in 262 Hejira) History of Medina; v 2 p 301; no 2363; researched by: Ali Muhammad Dandel and YasinSaad Al-Din Bayan; published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie; Beirut; 1417 Hejira; 1996
Ibrahim Ben Muhammad Torabelsi has mentioned the name of Muhammad Ben Isa Ben Samieas cheaters and he has said clearly that he has not heard this narration from IbnAbiZaeb, but he has heard it from someone else that was weak
د س ق محمد بن عيسى بن سميع ذكر بن حبان ك انه روى حديث مقتل عثمان عن بن أبي ذئب ولم سمعه منه إنما سمعه عن إسماعيل بن يحيى أحد الضعفاء عنه وكذلك قال صالح بن محمد وغيره.
Muhammad Ben Isa BenSamieIbnHaban has said that he has narrated the narration of killing Usman from IbnAbiZaeb whereas he has not heard the narration from him. But he has heard it from Ismaeil Ben Yahya that is one of weak narrators. Saleh Ben Muhammad and others have said this remark as well.
Al-Halbi Al-Terablosi, Abu Al-VafaEbrahimIbn Muhammad IbnSebtIbn Al-Ajmi (died in 841 Hejira) Al-Tabeen Al-Asma Al-Modalesin; v 1 p 193; no 72; researched by: Muhammad EbrahimDavood Al-Movaseli; published by: Al-Ryan Institute; Beirut; First Edition; 1414 Hejira; 1994
It is interesting that the Sunni dignitaries have considered cheating as the brother of lie and they have highly disapproved it.
Khatib Baghdadi, one of Sunni famous scientists, has said about the rule of cheating
. سمعت الشافعي يقول قال شعبة بن الحجاج التدليس أخو الكذب ... قال ثنا غندر قال سمعت شعبة يقول: التدليس في الحديث أشد من الزنا ولأن أسقط من السماء أحب الي من ان ادلس... سمعت المعافى يقول سمعت شعبة يقول لأن أزني أحب الي من ادلس... سمعت الحسن بن علي يقول سمعت أبا أسامة يقول خرب الله بيوت المدلسين ما هم عندي الا كذابون.
I heard that Shafei said '' Shoabe Ben Hojaj said '' cheating is the brother of lie''. Ghandar has said '' I heard that Shoabe said ''cheating is worse than adultery in Hadith. If I fall from the sky, it will be better than cheating for me''. I heard that Shoabe said '' if I commit adultery, it will be better than cheating for me''. I heard that Aba Asame said '' God destroys the house of Modlesin; in my opinion, they are only liars''.
Al-Baghdadi, Abubakr Ahmad Ibn Ali IbnSabet Al-Khatib (died in 463 Hejira) Al-Kefayat Fi Elm Al-Revayat v 1 p 355-356; researched by: Abu Abdullah Al-Sureghi; EbrahimHamdi Al-Madani; published by: Al-Maktabat Al-Elmie; Al-Medina
Hence, Muhammad Ben Isa Ben Samie was one of cheaters. He has heard this narration from one of weak narrators and he has attributed it to IbnAbiZaeb as a lie in order to cover the weakness of its document.
Consequently, the story that Amir Momenan ( peace be upon him) brought water for Usman, the defense of BaniHashem, Imam Hasan ( peace be upon him)and Imam Hussein ( peace be upon him) from Usman, the injury of Imam Hasan in order to defend Usman and … are all lie.