The content of Ghertas Hadith

Ibn Al-Erabei has narrated this narration with the following document
(541)- [539] نا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ سَعْدٍ الْعَوْفِيُّ، نا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْكَرِيمِ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنِي إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ عَقِيلٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ وَهْبِ بْنِ مُنَبِّهٍ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ (ص): " دَعَا عِنْدَ مَوْتِهِ بِصَحِيفَةٍ لَنَا لِيَكْتُبَ فِيهَا كِتَابًا لا تَضِلُّوا، قَالَ: فَحَلَفَ عَلَيْهِمْ عُمَرُ، حَتَّى نَقَضَهَا النَّبِيُّ (ص)
Ibn Al-Arabi, Abu Saeed Ahmad Ibn Muhammad IbnZiadIbnBashr (died in 340 Hejira) MojamIbn Al-Arabi; v 1 p 286; researched by: Ahmad MirinSayyad Al-Balushi; published by: Maktabat Al-Kosar; Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie; Riyadh; Beirut; First Edition
The document of this narration has no problem and all of its narrators are reliable.
Ahmad Bin Hanbel has narrated this narration with another document
حدثنا عبد اللَّهِ حدثني أبي ثنا مُوسَى بن دَاوُدَ حدثنا بن لَهِيعَةَ عن أبي الزُّبَيْرِ عن جَابِرٍ أَنَّ النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم دَعَا عِنْدَ مَوْتِهِ بِصَحِيفَةٍ لِيَكْتُبَ فيها كِتَاباً لاَ يضلون بَعْدَهُ قال فَخَالَفَ عليها عُمَرُ بن الْخَطَّابِ حتى رَفَضَهَا .
Al-Shibani, Abu Abdullah Ahmad IbnHanbal (died in 241 Hejira) Mosnad Ahmad IbnHanbal v 3 p 346 hadith no 14768; published by: GhortobatInstitue; Egypt
Hence, if the narration of Ibn Abbas and Umar are not acceptable, this narration has been narrated by Jaber Bin Abdullah with valid document.
 

The sixth point: narrating a narration from the children in the Sunni sources

We already said that Ibn Abbas was fifteen years old in the time of the decease of the messenger of God (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) from the point of view of Ahmad Ben Hanbel.
The Sunni scientists agree unanimously that it is possible to narrate narrations from a child of thirteen years old and even younger.
Khatib Baghdadi has written about this matter
وقال قوم الحد في السماع خمس عشرة سنة وقال غيرهم ثلاث عشرة وقال جمهور العلماء يصح السماع لمن سنه دون ذلك وهذا هو عندنا الصواب .
We should narrate a narration from a child that is at least fifteen years old and others have said that we should narrate a narration from a child that is thirteen years. Most of the scientists have said '' hearing narrations from persons that were lower than this age is also correct. This point of view is correct from my opinion.
Al-Baghdadi, AbubakrAhmad Ibn Ali IbnSabet Al-Khatib (died in 463 Hejira) Al-Kefayat Fi Elm Al-Revaya; v 1 p 54; researched by: Abu Abdullah Al-Sureghi; EbrahimHamdi Al-Madani; published by: Al-Maktab Al-Elmie; Medina
Abdullah Bin Zobeir was five years old in the Khandagh War. As we see, the events of the Khandagh War have been narrated by him in Sahih Mosalam and other Sunni books
حدثنا إسماعيل بن الْخَلِيلِ وَسُوَيْدُ بن سَعِيدٍ كلاهما عن بن مُسْهِرٍ قال إسماعيل أخبرنا عَلِيُّ بن مُسْهِرٍ عن هِشَامِ بن عُرْوَةَ عن أبيه عن عبد اللَّهِ بن الزُّبَيْرِ قال كنت أنا وَعُمَرُ بن أبي سَلَمَةَ يوم الْخَنْدَقِ مع النِّسْوَةِ في أُطُمِ حَسَّانَ فَكَانَ يطأطىء لي مَرَّةً فَأَنْظُرُ وأطأطىء له مَرَّةً فَيَنْظُرُ فَكُنْتُ أَعْرِفُ أبى إذا مَرَّ على فَرَسِهِ في السِّلَاحِ إلى بنى قُرَيْظَةَ.
It has been narrated from Abdullah Bin Zobeir '' Umar Bin Abi Salame and I were with the women in the Hesan Tower in the Khandagh War. Sometimes, stood on my back and sometimes I stood on his back in order to watch the war. I understood that my father was armed and he was going with his horse toward Gharize…
Al-Neishaburi Al-Ghashiri, Abu Al-Husain Moslem Ibn al-Hojaj (died in 261 Hejira) Sahih Moslem v 4 p 1879 hadith no 2416; KetabFazaelSahabeTahlhe Al-Zobeir; researched by: Muhammad FoadAbd Al-Baghi; published by: Dar EhyaToras Al-Rabi; Beirut
Navai has said about the explanation of the narration
وفي هذا الحديث دليل لحصول ضبط الصبي وتمييزه وهو بن اربع سنين فان بن الزبير ولد عام الهجرة في المدينة وكان الخندق سنة اربع من الهجرة على الصحيح فيكون له في وقت ضبطه لهذه القضية دون اربع سنين وفي هذا رد على ما قاله جمهور المحدثين انه لا يصح سماع الصبي حتى يبلغ خمس سنين والصواب صحته متى حصل التمييز وان كان بن اربع أو دونها.
This narration demonstrates the gain of the record of a child and his distinction while he is four years old because Ibn Zobeir was born in the first year of Hijrat and the Khandagh happened in the fourth year of Hijra. According to the correct opinion, he was less than four years old in recording this narration.
This narration is a rejection to what the Sunni scientists have said '' it is not right to hear a narration from a child until he becomes five years old''. The correct opinion is that when a child becomes an auditor, narrating narrations from him is right even thought he is four years old or less than it.
Al-Navai Al-Shafei, Mohei Al-Din Abu ZakariaYahyaIbnSharafIbn Mar Ibn Mar IbnJomatIbnHazam (died in 676 Hejira) Sharh Al-NavaviSahih Moslem v 15 p 189; published by: Dar Ehya Al-Toras Al-Arabi; Beirut; Second Edition; 1392 Hejira
When Abdullah Bin Zobeir of four years old can narrate narrations and his narration can be said in Sahih Mosalam, Why can't the narration of Ibn Abbas that was fifteen years old be accepted?

The norm of narrating a narration from a child from the point of view of Sunni scientists

As Nuvi says clearly, age is not important in narrating a narration from a child, but it is important whether it is Momayez or not? What child is called Momayez?
Khatib Baghdadi has written about this matter

سألت موسى بن هارون الحمال متى يسمع الصبي الحديث قال إذا فرق بين البقرة والحمار.
I asked from Musa Ben Harun Hamal '' in what conditions can we hear a narration from a child?'' He said '' when a child can recognize between a donkey and a cow?
Al-Baghdadi, Abubakr Ahmad Ibn Ali IbnSabet Al-Khatib (died in 463 Hejira) Al-Kefayat Fi Elm Al-Revaya; v 1 p 65; researched by: Abu Abdullah Al-Sureghi; EbrahimHamdi Al-Madani; published by: Al-Maktab Al-Elmie; Medina
Abu Umarv Shahruzi in the introduction of the book '' Ibn Al-Selah'', Shams Al-Din Sakhavi in the book '' Fath Al-Maghis'' and Ibrahim Ben Musa Al-Anbasi in the book '' Al-Sheza Al-Fiah'' have written this matter
Al-Kordi Al-Shahruzi, Abu Amro Osman IbnAbd Al-RahmanIbn Osman (died 643 Hejira) Olum Al-Hadith (MoghadamatIbn Al-Saleh) v 1 p 129; researched by: Nur Al-Din Etr; published by: Dar Al-Fekr Al-Moaser; Beirut; 1397 Hejira; 1997
Al-Sakhavi, Shams Al-Din Muhammad IbnAbd Al-Rahman (died in 902 Hejira) Fath Al-MaghisSharh Al-Fie Al-Hadith v 2 p 15; published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie; Beirut; Lebanon; First Edition; 1403 Hejira
Al-Abnasi Al-Mesri Al-Shafei, Abu EshaghBorhanBorhan Al-Din EbrahimIbn Musa Ibnayoob (died in 802 Hejira) Al-Shaza Al-Fiah Min OlumIbn Al-Salah v 1 p 275; researched by: Salah FathiHelal; published by: Maktabat Al-Roshd; Riyadh; first editon; 1418 Hejira; 1998
Seraj Al-Din Ansari known as Ibn Molghan has written about this matter in the book '' Al-Moghna''
وأما كتابته وتقييده فمن حين أهله له ويختلف باختلاف الأشخاص ولا يتقيد بسن مخصوص . فقال موسى بن هارون إذا فرق بين البقرة والدابة.
Writing and its conditions: the time of preparation for narrating a narration is in comparison with different persons and it is not related to a certain age. Then Musa Ben Harun Hafez has said ''when we can narrate a narration, a child can recognize a cow from other animals.

Al-Ansari Al-Shafei, Seraj Al-Din AbiHafs Omar Ibn Ali Ibn Ahmad Al-MaroufIbnMolghen (died in 804 Hejira) Al-Moghne Fi Olum Al-Hadith v 1 p 290; researched by: Abdullah IbnYousefAl-Jadi; published by: Dar FovazNashr; Saudi; first edition; 1413 Hejira

Badr Al-Din Eini has written about this matter in the book '' the explanation of Sahih Bokhari''
واختلفوا في السن الذي يصح فيه السماع للصغير ، فقال موسى بن هارون الحافظ : إذا فرق بين البقرة والدابة .
Al-Eini Al-Ghitabi Al-HanafiBadr Al-Din Abu Muhammad Mahmud Ibn Ahmad (died in 855 Hejira) Omdat Al-GhariSharhSahih Al-Bokhari v 2 p 68; published by: Dar EhyaToras Al-Arabi; Beirut
Scientists have disagreement about the age that is appropriate to hear a narration from a child. Then Musa Ben Harun Hafez has said '' when we can narrate a narration, a child can recognize a cow from other animals.

The baby that answered all of jurisprudence matters:

Mahya Al-Din Ibn Arabi has collected different stories about the babies that talked in the cradle and the stomach of their mother in the book '' Al-Fotuhat Al-Makie''.
He has also narrated a story from his daughter that is interesting to be heard:
وأما ما يناسب الكلام فإن ابنتي زينب سألتها كالملاعب لها وهي في سنّ الرضاعة وكان عمرها في ذلك الوقت سنة أو قريباً منها فقلت لها في حضور أمها وجدتها يا بنية ما تقولين في الرجل يجامع أهله ولا ينزل فقالت يجب عليه الغسل فتعجب الحاضرون من ذلك.
It is appropriate to be said here '' I asked my daughter, Zeinab, some questions when I was playing with her and she was around one years old. I said to him in the presence of his mother and grandmother '' O' my daughter! What is your opinion about a man that has sexual intercourse with his wife, but Enzal does not happen? '' He said '' ceremonial washing is not necessary for him''. Then the present people got surprised of this matter.
Ibn Al-Arabi Al-Taee Al-Khatami, Mohei Al-Din Ibn Ali Ibn Muhammad (died in 638 Hejira) Al-fotuhat Al-Makie Fi Marefat Al-Asrar Al-Melkie v 4 p 120; published by: Dar EhyaTorasArabi; Lebanon; first editon; 1418 Hejira; 1998
Halabi has narrated this story from Ibn Arabi.
Al-Halabi, ali Ibn Borhan Al-Din (died in 1044 Hejira) Al-Sirat Al-Halbie Fi Sire Al-Amin Al-Mamun; v 1 p 127; published by: Dar Al-Marefat; Beirut; 1400 Hejira

Conclusion

Since it is possible to narrate narrations from a child that is four years old and can recognize between cow and donkey and a baby can answer jurisprudence questions, what is wrong with narrating narrations from Ibn Abbas that is five years old and even ten years old?